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-mouse2002(Mouse mouse);
2001-11-25(#275162@0)
我同意SECURITY 观点， CISCO the best is Router, but for security, I think you should go to school, only in this way, can you have a good future
-mouse2002(Mouse mouse);
2001-11-25(#275164@0)
good, another one is studying network security, now I have Cisco MCNS , VPN Clinent and IDS Planning Guide, software copy. And like to share and exchange with your guys.
-songl(风);
2001-11-25(#275223@0)
my opinion不是想驳斥你的想法，我同意你说的，4个月学aix足够了，要是我，两个月就行了，问题是你应聘的时候怎么写你的简历，难道要编工作经历去骗人，你这和去年学java骗工作有什么不同吗。我觉得最主要的是目前如何让老外承认你已有的水平。只是一家言，欢迎大家指正
-sameway(sameway);
2001-11-26{240}(#275384@0)
I agreee with you, I dont think AIX,HPunix have the best future, although I am CCIE, I still think Network Security is the best future, CISCO is too tired, this is my own opinion, I hope we can become a friend
-bigmouser(Biggest Mouse);
2001-11-26(#275401@0)
For time I believe a doctor is more longer, but for difficulities, no one doubt it is CCIE much more difficult than a doctor, 5000 CCIE all over the world, how many doctors in North Amercian?
-security(Direction);
2001-11-29(#280641@0)
If Cisco closed, what were you guys going to do?
-iiop(㊣IIOP);
2001-11-29(#280650@0)
then all of us will go your company, be JAVA again
-windy2002(大花猫);
2001-11-29(#280676@0)
You can say that two twice!
But for those guys hunting jobs, it\\
-cornfield(玉米地);
2001-11-30(#281172@0)
Youcan say that twice twice! But for those guys hunting jobs, it\
-cornfield(玉米地);
2001-11-30(#281174@0)
what happend?I mean you are totally right. So I feel respect to a security expert though myself a programmer and know some network.
But for guys hunting for a job, it\
-cornfield(玉米地);
2001-11-30{158}(#281180@0)
oh god! let me test. I think problem is one can not use someting like:
single quote mark?
what is going on? => what\
-cornfield(玉米地);
2001-11-30(#281185@0)
Test again.
I am a Chinese. => I\
-cornfield(玉米地);
2001-11-30(#281190@0)
test one more time.
I\
-cornfield(玉米地);
2001-11-30(#281221@0)
At some points, I agree with iiop(㊣IIOP); most programmer dont have " a big picture" this is the truth, also, NO ONE can say that CCIE,CISSP is EASY, Not only Chinese, how many people all over the world have it?
-bigmouser(Biggest Mouse);
2001-11-30(#281193@0)
I couldn't agree with you more. I'm not saying they are easy, I just say CISSP is not that hard compare to CCIE.
-dennis2(Dennis);
2001-11-30(#281385@0)
Dennis, CISSP only one book?? then you can imaigine millions people have it like MCSE, the truth is at least you need 200 books and this is CCIE in security field, do u know the total number all over the world??
-security(Direction);
2001-11-30(#281255@0)
I can all agree with you,YES, some new comer or somebody who has some basic network experience can go with Security, BUT for programmers should remain here until laid-off and then find another way
-redwolf(大灰狼);
2001-11-30(#281626@0)
I will land Canada next month. Is it so hard for me to find a CISCO job? I have 4 years experence on cisco/security in China
-renren(chinaren);
2001-11-30(#281957@0)
Sounds reasonable, BUT no one know everything since his birth, I believe sucess comes with hard and smart working, time can prove everything! So keep going on security!@
-rabbit02(大白兔);
2001-12-2(#283432@0)
good discuess, ^
-torontovictor(toronto);
2002-1-7(#325365@0)
Based on your o[inion, we can find that you really have no "big picture" in your head
-smilin(drible);
2002-1-8(#326471@0)
Excuse me, I can't understand what u mean by "no big picture"? There are a lot of areas you can study from, besides security and Java.If you are programmer, SAP ABAP/4 , perl, shell or Lotus, AS400 programming is more appropriate for you to adapt.
If you have a good IT support background, you can learn UNIX, Openview,
CA or iplanet server.
I don't think it is easy for a programmer to transfer to security. (You must have a very good background on Networking and system)
I mean, it is just my own opinion, not targeting on a particular person. You are too sensitive.
-turnip(turnip);
2002-1-8{442}(#327328@0)
Yes, yourt opinion sounds good, however, you cannot deny the hot of security in Market now, can you say Java and programmers still hottest in current market?
-smilin(drible);
2002-1-9(#327957@0)
如果programming又热起来。那你是不是又改回programmer呢?如果永远都是在追求热门的东西，那你岂不是永远找不到定位?何况做IT security又何止一个cisco可做?ISO17799中那一点讲到了CISCO?反而是对system development中的security有具体要求:比如说，user authentication specification, cryptographic control and specification, change control design, testing(ethical hacking and penetration testing)等等.我觉得t拓宽领域本来是很对的，但应该考虑从本领域向相关领域拓宽，而不是突然跳到另一个领域。
-turnip(turnip);
2002-1-9{292}(#328696@0)
Hi, my friend, your opinion is funny, yes, Java positions seems double than security, HOWEVER, howmany people in markets now( includes laid off) i think 1000-10000 times than security
-smilin(drible);
2002-1-10(#329342@0)
tell you a truth, one15dollar/Hr for Java, 20,000 Java experts apply! I am a recruiter, do u know what I do with these Java Guru, just throw them in Garbage! all of them have 10 yrs experience!
-smilin(drible);
2002-1-10(#329345@0)
from 1993???? if someone said, he had 10 years experience, that means he doesn't have any!
-laofa(老乏);
2003-11-28(#1488758@0)
Network security 是很好一点，但毕竟需求量小。一个上万的用户的公司，才两个搞安全的。希望大家在做决定时慎重再慎重。就是CCIE，因为正常情况下，工资较高，很多中小型公司也不敢要。可大公司又大多数都已有了。大家可以去xincon college 了解了解行情，有多少拿到CCIE的人，现在还在找工作。搞清楚后再作决定。否则既浪费时间，又浪费金钱。
-nking(Richme);
2003-12-2{275}(#1495220@0)
Acctually, network security is a routine of network or system administrator. You have to know this if you are network/system admin
-rina006(rina);
2003-12-2(#1495487@0)
Exactly! Well Said!
-wfang01(Wayne);
2003-7-17(#1289904@0)
Comments on your Unix senior levelApperantly you have never been an Unix admin. Yes, you are right that you may get all those paper-skills in 4 month. But you may get screwed in your work.
Unix admin is not a job position only requiring the sysadmin knowledge. It is more involved with various projects, environments and devices, etc.
You won't get Unix admin position with your cert. This is 100% for sure.
Take care.
-bridge2k(bridge2k);
2003-12-2{397}(#1494806@0)