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请看这一段,我感觉我先生属于example (1), 参加了公司的401K,把自己交的那部分视为RRSP amt(当然没有超过2013年CRA的NOA显示的RRSP额度). 公司给match的那部分已经算在收入里。

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Pensions & other registered plans - mutual recognition

Who it affects: Cross-border commuters - individuals residing in one country and working in the other - who contribute to a pension plan (or any of certain other employment-related retirement arrangements) in the country where they work. Also individuals who move from one country to the other on short-term (up to five years) work assignments, and continue to contribute to a plan or arrangement in the first country. In certain cases, such persons' employers may also benefit.

Current rule: No rule in respect of contributions, meaning no assurance that they may be deducted for tax purposes in the country of employment.

New rule: Provided certain conditions are met, cross-border commuters may deduct, for residence country tax purposes, the contributions they make to a plan or arrangement in the country where they work. Similarly, those who move for work and meet certain conditions can deduct, for source country tax purposes, their contributions to a plan or arrangement in the other country, for up to five years. In both cases, accruing benefits are not taxable.

Examples: (1) A resident of Canada is employed in the U.S., and contributes to an employer-sponsored pension plan there. The employee's contributions to the plan (up to the employee's remaining RRSP deduction room) will be deductible for Canadian tax purposes. (2) An employee of a Canadian company is assigned for three years to a related U.S. company. The employee keeps contributing to the employee pension plan of the Canadian company. For U.S. tax purposes, both the employee and the U.S. company will be able to deduct the contributions.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下茶话 / 美国话题 / 在美国买的401K,报加拿大的税的时候,可以认定为401K= RRSP?CRA认可吗?比如美国收入是X,401K是Y,报美国的税,taxable income 是X-Y,报加拿大的税的时候,taxable income 是X-Y 还是X?谢谢
    • Taxable income is X. RRSP for the year = RRSP - 401K.
      • 谢谢,不是说从2009年开始,美国买的退休储蓄计划被视为加拿大的RRSP,报加拿大的税的时候可以从taxable income 中减去?
        • 看你这么理解。过去是401K和RRSP没关系。现在401K占你的RRSP额度。
          • 如果401K 占RRSP 的额度,那我是不是可以用Gross Income-401K 作为我的taxable income?我理解的对吗?在加拿大报税的时候,是把net 直接填在other employment income(line104)里,还是填gross income ,然后把401K 的数字填在line208(RRSP Contribution)?谢谢
            • 美国买的401K是填在line207,加拿大的RRSP是填在line208。 具体207可以填多少,需要用表RC268进行计算,里面有综合计算你的RRSP额度,今年购买的RRSP和401K,然后决定line207可以填多少?我这几年都是这样算的。
              • 谢谢,RRSP 为什么还要计算?2013 的NOA 不是已经显示有多少RRSP room吗?我们的RRSP room 大把的,因为以前一直没有买过,我去line 207看过了,是box20 on all T4 and box 32 on all T4A, 可是美国的收入只有W2,没有T4或T4A,怎样填呢?
                • RC268的税表设计需要rrsp的额度来控制line207可以填多少。
              • RC268里面的“Amount of your 2014 contributions to the United States (U.S.) retirement plan”是填employee 自付的那部分还是要加上employer match的那部分?还有“pricribed amount" 要填吗?谢谢
                • 我是这样填的。在RC268表里,line1填总的401k(包括公司给的),line2填你自己工资里面出钱买的401k,line3选line1或line2里面小的数,一般是line2的值,
                  line4是你的rrsp额度(税务局2013年通知的信里有),line5是你今年一共申报的rrsp(需要Schedule7来计算),line6是line4减去line5,然后挑选line3或line6里面小的数填到line207里面。
                  • 多谢多谢!
                  • 401K占用的RRSP 的额度是自己付的部分还是加上公司给match的部分?比如我买了X的401K,公司给match了Y, W2的12D是X,还是X+Y?加拿大的RRSP 额度占用了X,还是X+Y?多谢
                    • RC268表没让你自己算占用多少RRSP额度,关键是通过里面每行的规定最终把line207值准确得出,具体额度怎么占用?2014你还有多少RRSP额度?税务局会帮你算好寄通知给你。
                • pricribed amount 区域我没填。
      • 请看这一段,我感觉我先生属于example (1), 参加了公司的401K,把自己交的那部分视为RRSP amt(当然没有超过2013年CRA的NOA显示的RRSP额度). 公司给match的那部分已经算在收入里。
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Pensions & other registered plans - mutual recognition

        Who it affects: Cross-border commuters - individuals residing in one country and working in the other - who contribute to a pension plan (or any of certain other employment-related retirement arrangements) in the country where they work. Also individuals who move from one country to the other on short-term (up to five years) work assignments, and continue to contribute to a plan or arrangement in the first country. In certain cases, such persons' employers may also benefit.

        Current rule: No rule in respect of contributions, meaning no assurance that they may be deducted for tax purposes in the country of employment.

        New rule: Provided certain conditions are met, cross-border commuters may deduct, for residence country tax purposes, the contributions they make to a plan or arrangement in the country where they work. Similarly, those who move for work and meet certain conditions can deduct, for source country tax purposes, their contributions to a plan or arrangement in the other country, for up to five years. In both cases, accruing benefits are not taxable.

        Examples: (1) A resident of Canada is employed in the U.S., and contributes to an employer-sponsored pension plan there. The employee's contributions to the plan (up to the employee's remaining RRSP deduction room) will be deductible for Canadian tax purposes. (2) An employee of a Canadian company is assigned for three years to a related U.S. company. The employee keeps contributing to the employee pension plan of the Canadian company. For U.S. tax purposes, both the employee and the U.S. company will be able to deduct the contributions.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
        • 上面这段话己说明了,个人买的401K及公司match的部分,在美国和加拿大都可以抵扣. 问题是公司match的401k在W2的什么地方呢?
          • 刚查了一下,公司match的401k没有在W2上, 也不会在1040上, 在401K的statement上. 去年在美国报税用的是H&R block,这人over30years的报税水平,没有问我要401Kstatement,我想公司match的401k和1040似乎沒有关系.
            Google 了一个人的问题和回答
            When my employer makes a contribution to an employee 401k account, are any taxes payed by the employee (e.g. FICA)? And does the employer match amount show anywhere on the employee's W-2 or 1040?





            The amount you deposit pretax is noted on the W-2, which you attach to the 1040 form. The company match does not appear anywhere on the w-2 or 1040. It should show on your 401-K statements. Those statements should also tell you how much of the match has been vested.