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典型的 defensive 是攻击性的,只有攻击性危害才大。dictionary.com: excessively concerned with guarding against the real or imagined threat of criticism, injury to one's ego, or exposure of one's shortcomings. 贴一篇五老虎 defensive 的文章,很好的例子。

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛TIGER WOODS DEFENSIVE ABOUT UPCOMING BOOK

PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. – It didn’t take long for Tiger Woods to go on the attack in his first trip to the Honda Classic in nearly 20 years. But he was in the press room, not on the golf course. His road to the Masters is not off to a smooth start. Excerpts from Hank Haney’s book on his six years as Woods’ swing coach are starting to be released. So when he was asked about the relentless scrutiny of his swing, his putting, just about everything, Woods fired the first volley. “Yeah, I know,” he said. “I think you’re one of the guys that does that, too.”

There was nervous laughter before Woods continued. “It’s part of who I am and what I’ve accomplished,” he said. “I think it would have been probably similar if Jack (Nicklaus) was probably in my generation. Didn’t quite have the media scrutiny that they do now. And it’s just a different deal, and I know that a lot of players don’t get the same analysis with their games that I do. But it’s been like that since I turned pro.”

When questions turned to the book, Woods grew testy. Golf Digest on Tuesday began to release excerpts from Haney’s book, The Big Miss, and in one of them, Haney details Woods’ fascination with the military, particularly the Navy SEALs. The news conference at PGA National turned awkward when Alex Miceli, a writer and contributor to Golf Channel, asked Woods if he considered being a Navy SEAL. “I’ve already talked about everything in the book. I’ve already commented on everything, Alex,” Woods said. “Then I must have missed you answering that question,” Miceli replied. “Well, I’ve already commented on the book. Is that in the book? Is it in the book?” Woods said. Haney’s book is scheduled for release March 27.

Associated Press更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 工作学习 / 事业与工作 / 心态 (Attitude) (7B): defensive
    • SF. 老猫一天不值班? 赶快加精.
    • 请作者解释 OFFENDER 和 DEFENDER 的区别。不打不相识,除了老红,有些欣赏酱油(醋?)哥和不器了。另:几点讨论。
      1. 80/20 - 我觉得80的比例高。坛子里的 MANAGER 应该知道,INTERVIEW 和找来的雇员 BELOW AVERAGE 的多。

      2. 和谐 - 西方的教会系统很庞大,历史也悠久。我没入教,无法说。但我知道教会的唯心说是很强的。这些唯心说里关于待人,待物那是林林种种。很有些 MENTAL HEALTH 的作用。我们智力教育够,MENTAL 的教育是不够的,也没有这个教会的系统。老外 SUNDAY 的活动是万万不能小瞧了的。

      3. 老外轻易不歧视人,起码我是这样觉得的。尤其是我们让他们俨然成了强者,他们作为强者施舍的时候,更不会。反倒是同等的较量的时候,为了争各种资源,尊严..... 才会歧视并打击。

      最后,我重申自己的看法。DEFENSIVE 要有外界的 STIMULUS,不是主动的攻击。OFFENSIVE 是主动的攻击,比如强奸犯管不住自己的JJ。

      共勉
      • 小溪妹妹V5. 酱油哥, 今天别打醋啊. 不器哥, 赶快出来亮亮相, 好久不见了吗.
      • 80/20,只是一种道理,具体数字,大家自己定。你回过几个 defense/offense 的帖子,我不太同意,但是我觉得我的意思已经说清楚了,所以没有回你。
        • 有异同是应该的,要不我就成了你的奴隶了。我也是在这里最后说一下。而且 DEFENSIVE 和 OFFENSIVE 不是独立存在的。开始可能是 DEFENSIVE,后来就夹杂 OFFENSIVE了,可能事主已经分辨不清了。而且论的主题已经转换,都不可觉了。
    • 面试的时候,我也遇到过面试官问我是不是中国人。那是去面试 calgary 一 oil service company,我当时愣了一下,manager 马上说,他们公司在中国有业务,他的组将来可能要派人到中国。个人认为这一章是这系列写的最好的.
      • 一般般吧, 还有待提高 :-)
    • 我觉得歧视很多时候是自己的心态。如果对方有明显的语言或行为的攻击,那是歧视。如果只是中性的问题,我觉得是自己的心态。如果人人都为作为中国人而骄傲自豪,那么当别人问你是不是中国人的时候,你就不会觉得人家是在歧视你了。
      我很多时候会主动告诉别人我是中国人,所以从来不觉得别人问这个问题是歧视。

      问这个问题的人,也许是业务的需要,也许是好奇。即使是后者,我也相信不带有歧视的成分,因为如果他们真的歧视你的话,就不会问这个问题了。
      • “因为如果他们真的歧视你的话,就不会问这个问题了”:太对了。
        • 不一定, 要看情况. 有些人的歧视是不掩饰的, To a very small portion of them discrimination is ingrained.
      • 很多中国人并不以身为中国人而自豪。
        • 这句话本身就是一种歧视,隐含的意思就是:我是中国人,我自豪,你不是吧?呵呵
          • 心态。我觉得不要自卑也无需自豪,不论是哪国人,都只是一个事实而已。不卑不亢,该干什么干什么。
            • 这是理想境界。
        • 希望能像我一样, 是那个你说的少数.
          • 得,刺哥又跟我唱反调。给说道说道,都自豪些啥?
    • 写得很好。这些年我自己也在生活中不断地体验和思考歧视这个问题。赞同作者提出的宏观和微观两方面。我们要不断地提高自信,过分敏感是不自信的表现。
    • 好文章! "80/20 定律"是一个亮点,以前对兵哥观点的攻击大多是从那 20 上来的。凡事都有exception,但如果人的心态建立在exception之上,就容易变成偏激或不正常的人。
      • 对兵哥的攻击大都是对人不对事,跟几十几十没关系。
        • 谁看兵哥不顺眼了?俺看着兵哥挺顺眼的啊。俺对兵哥的态度是,有攻击,有支持。按rocky 同学的划分,应该是属于一小部分的?
          • 就是嘛, 所以说色色是我的最饭.
        • 别生气啊, 闹着玩儿的. (#7317896@0)
          • 你需要看眼病了。 - 我也是闹着玩的。呵呵。
            • 哎呀呀, 真感谢. 我验眼睛OHIP是cover的, 尽管保险公司也能报销.
          • 刺哥是查户口的。
            • SIU
      • 另外,兵哥最近总提到他的保姆,好象服务很好 -- 能否PM电话号码?:)
        • HAHAHA! 5 meals a week!
          Was 兵哥 not talking about his wife :-) ?
    • Many very good points. Thanks.
    • 我再心态不好的质疑一下这个"心态"文章..
      你在这里实际是想说不要由于过度过敏而"being defensive", 而不是不需要 "being defensive".

      "defensive" 就是对外界的攻击做自我防卫, 是被动的行为, 正如小溪说的 "要有外界的 STIMULUS". 而"攻击性"是主动行为. 如果真的受到攻击, 人还是需要 " being defensive" 的, 比如明显的感觉到周围环境有危险存在, 就需要" being defensive", 做好准备应对危机. 同样, 在工作中, 对小人虽然不必去正面冲突, 但需要做一些防备, 也就是"being defensive",不让他们有可乘之机来自我保护, 这也是我们所说的"害人之心不可有, 但防人之心不可无". 只不过如何"defense" 是一门艺术, 也是对一个人智慧和修养真正的考验. 同一件事, 不同的"defense" 方式会有截然不同的效果. 这就是另一个话题了.

      过度过敏而"being defensive"固然不好, 但该"being defensive" 的时候还是要"being defensive"的. 所以"defensive"不是"攻击性", 自己观点阐述的不清会引来误会, 也会误导他人.
      • 防守可以不需要 DEFENSIVE的。没有缝的鸡蛋是不会被腐蚀的。 有弱点才会去 DEFEND。这是我说的巨渊博而时刻讲道理的意思。走鸟,得玩去了。YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY !!
        • 没有缝的鸡蛋确实是不会被腐蚀的, 但不等于没有被细菌攻击. 巨渊博而时刻讲道理的不是不DEFENSEIVE, 而是达到了DEFENSIVE的最高境界. 也就是平时就努力把自己提高到了"巨渊博"的境界. 这个过程就是"BEING DEFENSIVE"的过程.
          再"巨渊博"的人都会有弱点.有弱点并不可怕,可怕的是不敢面对和承认自己的弱点,或者不知道自己的弱点. 
          • Applaud
      • 我写文章谈张三和李四,你总是回帖说王二麻子岂是这样的?你老师原来是这样,后来变客观不少。坛子里现在没有一个人象你这样。你去问问本地人,说某人defensive,有没有你说的意思。
        • 支持你的人都是对的, 不支持的就都心态不好. 我这回贴除了表达了我对这个贴的看法, 先不管这看法对还是不对, 我有攻击你个人吗? 而你的回贴呢, 除了对我个人的人身攻击有具体说我的观点到底怎么不对了吗? 你真是缺什么嚷什么. 这就是你的心态, 也是你的思维方式.
          我回贴也不是为和你探讨, 而是让读者能开阔一下思路. 你理解能力和领悟能力不是一般的低. .

          还有, 谁是我老师啊, 我在坛子里好象没认过谁做老师吧. 你给我请老师是不是也该和我打声招呼啊, 你是不是有点儿一相情愿啊. 至于你我或他人是否客观你说了也不算. 你太自以为是了.

          另外, 不见的说某人defensive就一定是不好的意思, 这要看情景和说话人的语气. 这坛子里是否有和我一样的也不是你说了算. 我也不CARE有没有和我一样的. 你大概没听说过"真理往往掌握在少数人手里"这句话吧.

          一个连"和你一起变老"这种爱意的表达都能感觉被"offensive"的人还天天喊不要defensive. 一个把所有不同意见都归为别人问题的人还天天教别人心态. 你还是把自己的心态好好调整一下要紧, 整理一下自己一堆乱麻的头脑, 不要再误导大众了.. 这是回你最后一贴, 我也懒的理你了...
          • 你哪里看出有人身攻击呢?
            • Defensive and very. 拍版主的马屁终于派上用场了,把我的贴都删了,继续拍,恶心人啊.
              • 收到你的PM了。实在是对不起。
          • “缺什么嚷什么”---------有点精辟。.
    • defensive 不一定具有攻击性, 翻译成"护短"比较恰当
      • 典型的 defensive 是攻击性的,只有攻击性危害才大。dictionary.com: excessively concerned with guarding against the real or imagined threat of criticism, injury to one's ego, or exposure of one's shortcomings. 贴一篇五老虎 defensive 的文章,很好的例子。
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛TIGER WOODS DEFENSIVE ABOUT UPCOMING BOOK

        PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. – It didn’t take long for Tiger Woods to go on the attack in his first trip to the Honda Classic in nearly 20 years. But he was in the press room, not on the golf course. His road to the Masters is not off to a smooth start. Excerpts from Hank Haney’s book on his six years as Woods’ swing coach are starting to be released. So when he was asked about the relentless scrutiny of his swing, his putting, just about everything, Woods fired the first volley. “Yeah, I know,” he said. “I think you’re one of the guys that does that, too.”

        There was nervous laughter before Woods continued. “It’s part of who I am and what I’ve accomplished,” he said. “I think it would have been probably similar if Jack (Nicklaus) was probably in my generation. Didn’t quite have the media scrutiny that they do now. And it’s just a different deal, and I know that a lot of players don’t get the same analysis with their games that I do. But it’s been like that since I turned pro.”

        When questions turned to the book, Woods grew testy. Golf Digest on Tuesday began to release excerpts from Haney’s book, The Big Miss, and in one of them, Haney details Woods’ fascination with the military, particularly the Navy SEALs. The news conference at PGA National turned awkward when Alex Miceli, a writer and contributor to Golf Channel, asked Woods if he considered being a Navy SEAL. “I’ve already talked about everything in the book. I’ve already commented on everything, Alex,” Woods said. “Then I must have missed you answering that question,” Miceli replied. “Well, I’ve already commented on the book. Is that in the book? Is it in the book?” Woods said. Haney’s book is scheduled for release March 27.

        Associated Press更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 以上两回帖可以转"外语学习"。:)
    • 说来说去,就是做人不能太小心眼
      • 纸老虎哥说的对, 所以我从来没说过我不喜欢轮子哥. 随便问问, 你家小仔在中国怎么样?
        • 谢谢刺哥关怀,一切安好!
    • 为嘛觉得兵哥越来越像党报记者了?
      • (#7317997@0) 哈哈
    • I'D LOVE TO, but I got another appointment。 I'll definitely go next time。。。。appointment换成commitment是不是更合逻辑。。。。?因为像牙医那样的appointment多数由不得自己。。。。如果这么客套滴显得很假。。。。万一。。。。
      赶上个defensive之人。。。。会认为你在调侃ta。。。。俺咬文嚼字。。。。胡勒哈。。。。
      • 大忽悠,你的签名咋显示那么长,俺的五毛的毛就给剪掉了呢?
        • 毛要常剪。。。。肉联帮你保持卫生习惯。。。。应该端正心态。。。。
    • 写得好.心态要年年谈,月月谈...
    • 写的挺好...defensive如果是形容词来形容某人,应该是不必要的防卫或者防卫过度吧 :)