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SAP chooses Informatica PowerCenter as the data integration solution. They should be able to run such migration job over PowerCenter's high-performance engine.

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛On the surface, last week’s accord between ERP giant SAP AG and data integration specialist Informatica Corp. had all of the trappings of any other OEM arrangement. Beneath the surface, however, the deal underscores a new—and apparently authentic—openness on SAP’s part, which is good news, analysts say, both for customers and SAP alike.

First, the background: Informatica last week notched an OEM accord with SAP. The ERP giant plans to embed Informatica’s PowerCenter ETL tool, PowerExchange mainframe connectivity tool, and Metadata Manager software into its performance management (PM) and analytic applications. SAP also disclosed plans to embed all three products in its NetWeaver platform for master data management (MDM) and business intelligence (BI).

Over the last two years, SAP has grown steadily closer to Informatica—thanks mostly to IBM Corp.’s acquisition in March of 2005 of Ascential Software Corp., SAP’s then-preferred ETL partner. Just months later, in October of 2005, Informatica notched a "Master Relationship Agreement" with SAP to jointly market its data integration tools and services in tandem with SAP’s NetWeaver solution stack. The new agreement builds on this and other accords.

"This agreement with Informatica will enhance and extend SAP’s business solutions and allow our customers to access this best-in-class technology to … [drive] unparalleled visibility and management across an enterprise," said SAP senior vice-president Nimish Mehta, in a statement. "With this agreement, both our existing and new customers will benefit as Informatica and SAP work closely together to deliver … enterprise software to an ever-increasing customer base."

That’s the PR boilerplate. Under the coverse, however, there’s an important subtext, says Philip Russom, a senior manager with TDWI research. "OEM and reseller agreements come and go … , and it’s hard to say when one fledges whether it will make a difference for the original equipment provider, the reseller, or the end-user customer," comments Russom, who notes that, in this case, the SAP/Informatica accord is limited to advanced data management applications—and not to bread-and-butter applications like production reporting: "I’d guess that the dent it’ll make in the SAP customer base is likewise limited."

On the other hand, Russom says, there is something to be said for the Informatica/SAP accord—at least insofar as it underscore’s SAP’s commitment to openness, at least with respect to its NetWeaver ambitions. "The subtler message that this announcement screams is that SAP is continuing its relatively new commitment to openness. This is true, even if the limited-use license of Informatica PowerCenter provided through the agreement is only for bringing non-SAP data into SAP, but not the reverse," Russom indicates.

In this case, both SAP and rival Oracle are demonstrating a compelling comportment to openness. SAP’s accord with Informatica is a strong indicator, for one thing—but Oracle also licenses Informatica’s data integration technology for its BI applications, largely for use with Siebel Analytics.

"Personally, I think the openness of SAP NetWeaver is a good thing, because it helps users get a more complete view of organizational performance through more complete data integrated from beyond SAP," Russom concludes. "I feel the same way about Oracle Fusion Middleware, and I encourage all application vendors to follow the lead of SAP and Oracle, by helping users enhance their BI with data from diverse sources beyond the application brand."更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 工作学习 / 学科技术讨论 / SAP环境
    这段时间收到不少朋友的PM问有关如何建立SAP环境以及寻找资源的问题,我无法一一做答,因此就只能简单的总结一下。

    1、有朋友问能不能给SAP安装盘的拷贝,呵呵,对不起,这类问题我回答不了。那几十张DVD有可能在中国有,几百块人民币吧。
    2、以前曾经是SAP END USER,现在想凭着自学而直接成为核心模块的FUNCTIONAL CONSULTANT的可能性不大,因为书本上的知识和实施基本上是两回事
    3、有很强的系统、数据库、网络知识的要靠自学成为SAP管理员的可能性是存在的,不过需要准备比较长的时间
    4、由其他程序员转做SAP开发(ABAP或者JAVA)的可能性是有的,需要一套环境
    5、无论背景,本身兴趣强,要选择一个方向转入是有可能的,比如做BW,CRM,SRM,XI(PI),MDM等等,都是不错的方向。

    总结,想单兵做战从无到有并短时间上位的可能性是比较低的,要取得进步最好是团体作战。去年夏天曾经组织过一个学习小组,凑钱买了机器并建立了SAP环境,从中是有人取得很大进步的。

    今年又是冬天了,不知道是否有人有兴趣再组织这么一个SAP学习小组?请跟帖或发邮件给我lpcome@gmail。com....不过事先说好,肯定要投入一定金钱的,$100-1000不等。。。怀疑本少诈钱的别给砖哈。
    • 饭老板的SAP贴没人顶?太不厚道了!
    • 饭老板,俺有兴趣,已经给老板你弄了一个email了。
    • 在哪嘎打组织呀?
    • 我感兴趣.不过我在montreal.
    • 支持!我报名。
    • 不好.
      太简单了.
      老饭,别光忙着赚钱. 俺给你个标题, 慢慢写吧:
      一个老移民SAP盲的演变过程

      集数:暂定13
      字数:不得少于"车盲"
      special require: 一定要有一个 Bob 似的 配角.
    • Does anyone know where I can find SAP .NET Connector (trial version) to download without asking DPA ID/password?
      • You can download ERPconnect in the following url. It is better and easier to use
        • Thanks for the link.
          Compared its documents and documents of SAP .NET connector, it looks like the erpconnect is simpler and easier to use.

          Did you try both before? And since the erpconnect is a third-party product, is it very reliable?
          • I used both before. The current SAP .Net Connector is only working with VS2003 while ERP Connector is good under VS2005
            • It’s good to know, especially there is big gap between .NET FW 2.0 and 1.1.
              One more question, can ERPconnect be used for SAP version 4.6c? Thanks
    • 饭老板的帖子要顶一下:)
    • 顶! 我记得以前搞过一次,那台机还在吗?
    • Updated: You may register in the following link
      • thanks, already registered.
    • please count me.Thanks
      • I will not reply to any individual Emails. For participation you have to register at the weblink. Thanks.
    • 奇了怪了,借贴请教一下,SAP APP SERVER 在什么情况下停下来以后,不release shared memory?
      • 连个谢谢都不会说了.这些小朋友们真不懂礼貌啊!
    • I am interested, Are we going to make the group?
    • Free SAP/DB2 Test Drive DVD
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛I'm a world wide SAP/DB2 technical support, and here is something I can offer you for free:

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      You do need to register with sdn.sap.com before you can download it. The registration is free.

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      Have fun! :->更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • thanks mark
    • 好啊,只要不是太贵,我有兴趣
    • Updated: demo system opened internally, which was an SAP ECC5.0 based on Oracle 11g(Yes you didn't see wrong, it's ORACLE 11G)
      • 11g is too new, man! Can SAP take any of the advanced feature of Oracle?
        • Agree. That's why nobody can answer my question in SAP sdn website...You just cannot find anybody know very well in both SAP and Oracle 'new' tech...Most Oracle 'senior' guys are just old and refuse to accept new technologies....
          本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛OS/DB Migration under Oracle 10g, possible 'Convert'?
          Posted: Feb 4, 2008 4:30 PM Edit E-mail this message Reply

          Hi experts,

          Recently I ran some OS/DB migration tests on SAP ECC6/Oracle 10 and I realized the SAPINST export/import time was really kind of pain... Personally I think the SAPINST was doing something similar with Oracle export/import and that's the reason for low performance...You experts may still remember everytime when you performed an OS/DB migration on TB level SAP systems, the timeline would be well over 10~40 hours....

          So anybody tried Oracle 10g's new feature 'CONVERT' by RMAN? Personally I tried it in stand-alone Oracle small dadtabase(Maybe 20G) which converted the DB from Linux to AIX, no problems, and, very fast. However I haven't got a chance to test in SAP environment...(Not sure in this case it's still need an SAP Migration Key? because it's not performed by SAPINST). If it's possible to use Oracle 'CONVERT' that will save at least 50% time of OS/DB migration....

          Some document about Oracle CONVERT between different platforms:

          http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B28359_01/backup.111/b28270/rcmxplat.htm

          Re: OS/DB Migration under Oracle 10g, possible 'Convert'?
          Posted: Feb 4, 2008 4:38 PM E-mail this message Reply

          By the way, Both Linux and AIX are Power version, which are 'Big' ENDIAN_FORMAT更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
          • you can try using materialized view to reduce your down time
          • SAP chooses Informatica PowerCenter as the data integration solution. They should be able to run such migration job over PowerCenter's high-performance engine.
            本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛On the surface, last week’s accord between ERP giant SAP AG and data integration specialist Informatica Corp. had all of the trappings of any other OEM arrangement. Beneath the surface, however, the deal underscores a new—and apparently authentic—openness on SAP’s part, which is good news, analysts say, both for customers and SAP alike.

            First, the background: Informatica last week notched an OEM accord with SAP. The ERP giant plans to embed Informatica’s PowerCenter ETL tool, PowerExchange mainframe connectivity tool, and Metadata Manager software into its performance management (PM) and analytic applications. SAP also disclosed plans to embed all three products in its NetWeaver platform for master data management (MDM) and business intelligence (BI).

            Over the last two years, SAP has grown steadily closer to Informatica—thanks mostly to IBM Corp.’s acquisition in March of 2005 of Ascential Software Corp., SAP’s then-preferred ETL partner. Just months later, in October of 2005, Informatica notched a "Master Relationship Agreement" with SAP to jointly market its data integration tools and services in tandem with SAP’s NetWeaver solution stack. The new agreement builds on this and other accords.

            "This agreement with Informatica will enhance and extend SAP’s business solutions and allow our customers to access this best-in-class technology to … [drive] unparalleled visibility and management across an enterprise," said SAP senior vice-president Nimish Mehta, in a statement. "With this agreement, both our existing and new customers will benefit as Informatica and SAP work closely together to deliver … enterprise software to an ever-increasing customer base."

            That’s the PR boilerplate. Under the coverse, however, there’s an important subtext, says Philip Russom, a senior manager with TDWI research. "OEM and reseller agreements come and go … , and it’s hard to say when one fledges whether it will make a difference for the original equipment provider, the reseller, or the end-user customer," comments Russom, who notes that, in this case, the SAP/Informatica accord is limited to advanced data management applications—and not to bread-and-butter applications like production reporting: "I’d guess that the dent it’ll make in the SAP customer base is likewise limited."

            On the other hand, Russom says, there is something to be said for the Informatica/SAP accord—at least insofar as it underscore’s SAP’s commitment to openness, at least with respect to its NetWeaver ambitions. "The subtler message that this announcement screams is that SAP is continuing its relatively new commitment to openness. This is true, even if the limited-use license of Informatica PowerCenter provided through the agreement is only for bringing non-SAP data into SAP, but not the reverse," Russom indicates.

            In this case, both SAP and rival Oracle are demonstrating a compelling comportment to openness. SAP’s accord with Informatica is a strong indicator, for one thing—but Oracle also licenses Informatica’s data integration technology for its BI applications, largely for use with Siebel Analytics.

            "Personally, I think the openness of SAP NetWeaver is a good thing, because it helps users get a more complete view of organizational performance through more complete data integrated from beyond SAP," Russom concludes. "I feel the same way about Oracle Fusion Middleware, and I encourage all application vendors to follow the lead of SAP and Oracle, by helping users enhance their BI with data from diverse sources beyond the application brand."更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net