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My version of the story

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本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛One of my lady friends just told me her story, it's about her landlord. There were some dozen peoples lived in a small house she and the landlord couple occupied the third floor, "The wife had a boyfriend," she said, and I go: "Well... It doesn’t surpass me...", then she goes: "but they do that in front of us...", " Do WHAT???@%&...", "... they touch each other on that place, you know...", "Hehe, I thought they do THAT, it doesn't suprise me either, I've seen my engaged friend did that with a married man in front of us when we camp out together, where did you see that?", "living room, when we play majon...", "where is the husband then? Did he know his wife hang out with someone?", "oh, he was upstairs, I think he knew...", " poor guy..." I expressed my sympathy and really didn’t know what else to say, 20 second silent and she goes again "You know what the wife told me when I moved in?"," what?"," She want me go out with her husband... that way she would be feel better...", "What the F@&*|#$!!!!" I was really freaked out this time, " ...but I refused, and the wife had to go after another girl who lived in the basement", "Did she get it?” " Of course not, that girl was busy went out with different man every night. ", "huuu...so you tell me you still safe after 7 month living with these jungle bitches?” " Yeah, the only time I feel the danger is when I with you" that ends our conversation... oh, did I forgot tell you the wife is a POGRAMMER and the guy has no job? And every one in that house is from China of course.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下沙龙 / 谈天说地 / 加拿大：中国新移民离婚率步步高 “高达60%！！！”(转别人贴)大家发表看法或亲身体验 -eglington(eglington); 2001-3-10 {1007} (#31940@0)
    加拿大：中国新移民离婚率步步高

    　 目前，中国大陆已成为加拿大最大的移民来源国，仅去年一年，移民加国的中国人就达到4万多。在加拿大的最大城市多伦多，华裔人口有40多万人，其中来自大陆的新移民在10万以上。令人关注的是，在他们开始新生活的同时，原来的婚姻也遭到了冲击。据统计，中国新移民的离婚率竟在60％以上，远远高于加拿大的平均水平！
    　 多伦多大学社会学家吕志伟（音译）对新移民的离异情况作过大量研究，他认为，家庭中男女双方对新环境的认识不同往往直接引发离婚。这就是说，男女双方适应新环境的能力、对新的国家和体制的认同程度一旦出现较大差别，离异的可能便随之大增。此外，在新移民离婚案中，由女方提出的占多数，这主要是因为，女方往往令人惊讶地比男方更易适应新环境。当一对新移民到了加国后，如果女方情况比男方好，那么结局大多是劳燕分飞。还有一种情况是，要是一方先来，接着另一方再来团聚，他们的离婚率也很高，原因是，在过单身生活时，两个人可能都有了异性朋友，而且对新环境的适应能力更可能有“时间差”。

    　 中国新移民离婚率的“步步高”，已引起加国政府和社区的普遍关注，加拿大官方已经采取了多种措施在帮助新移民适应环境。
    • Just wonder how they conduct this statistics, like how many new immigrant did they survey, is the survey focus on certain group, etc.. But I do not consider the data authantic. -daqiao(Bill); 2001-3-10 (#31941@0)
      • how can they got the sample to make such stupid statistics, what is the mean error, or the Standard deviation? I doubt about it, Neither did the statistic for immgrant from China last.it is a fake! -juliancanery(julian); 2001-3-11 (#32044@0)
    • 60%？好象没那么多。不过女的要是英文好，工作好，十有二三会在家里织造点麻烦。以后加拿大妇女的地位有望提高了。 -hearts(hearts); 2001-3-10 (#31983@0)
      • 是!!!认识一对夫妇. 女的比男的混得好. 女方父母以办好移民. 男方父母连办探亲都不允许. 真为他落泪呀. 十足只许洲官放火不许百姓点灯之现代版. -wjiang(wjiang); 2001-3-10 (#32008@0)
        • My version of the story -guest:jian; 2001-3-11 {1582} (#32066@0)
          本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛One of my lady friends just told me her story, it's about her landlord. There were some dozen peoples lived in a small house she and the landlord couple occupied the third floor, "The wife had a boyfriend," she said, and I go: "Well... It doesn’t surpass me...", then she goes: "but they do that in front of us...", " Do WHAT???@%&...", "... they touch each other on that place, you know...", "Hehe, I thought they do THAT, it doesn't suprise me either, I've seen my engaged friend did that with a married man in front of us when we camp out together, where did you see that?", "living room, when we play majon...", "where is the husband then? Did he know his wife hang out with someone?", "oh, he was upstairs, I think he knew...", " poor guy..." I expressed my sympathy and really didn’t know what else to say, 20 second silent and she goes again "You know what the wife told me when I moved in?"," what?"," She want me go out with her husband... that way she would be feel better...", "What the F@&*|#$!!!!" I was really freaked out this time, " ...but I refused, and the wife had to go after another girl who lived in the basement", "Did she get it?” " Of course not, that girl was busy went out with different man every night. ", "huuu...so you tell me you still safe after 7 month living with these jungle bitches?” " Yeah, the only time I feel the danger is when I with you" that ends our conversation... oh, did I forgot tell you the wife is a POGRAMMER and the guy has no job? And every one in that house is from China of course.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
          • He he he! Funny! That's the reason why those people came here! -eglington(eglington); 2001-3-11 (#32089@0)
          • this is just a impressive story isn't it? -juliancanery(julian); 2001-3-11 (#32106@0)
            • Don't know if it's impressive but sure it's TRUE, that conversation took place just feww hours before I post, seen a lots of this stuff already, and I have my own freaking experience too, if I count the the people I know 60% is no exagration. -guest:jian; 2001-3-11 (#32275@0)
          • Gee, that girl really sucks!!! My point is that she has the right to love somebody else, but she doesn't has the right to hurt her husband that way. The same applies to those husbands in love with others. -hearts(hearts); 2001-3-11 (#32136@0)
            • you read my mind, I am on your side definately . -juliancanery(julian); 2001-3-12 (#32331@0)
      • Congratulations! Thanks for chinese woman to promote the statues of their Canandian sisters. Sound siliy don't you think so. -juliancanery(julian); 2001-3-11 (#32045@0)
      • Don't think so. My English is better than my husband and I have a good job, my husband is studying... So what, we are still very, very happy, he is still the best husband on the world. -alien(rainbow); 2001-6-7 (#93867@0)
    • 我觉得这个新闻不可信，比例应该没有那么高。我只知道一对离婚的，是因为女方有外遇，一个一同打工的男人。我总觉得，深圳的离婚率应该比这里高。当一个人认为自己可以重新选择的时候，她为什么不重新选择？ -rolling(Rollor); 2001-3-11 (#32083@0)
    • 刚来的时候，我也不相信。但是陆陆续续，听到了看到了周围人的很多故事，慢慢相信了。但我想达不到60%这么高吧。 -flying_cloud(流云); 2001-3-11 (#32133@0)
      • 能不能讲几个故事我们听听？简单点也行。 -eglington(eglington); 2001-3-11 (#32201@0)
        • 我家楼上就有一个。 -flying_cloud(流云); 2001-3-11 {516} (#32209@0)
          我去小区的游泳馆认识的。他一个人来的，后来回国认识了一个女孩，结了婚，费劲卖力的把她办过来，结果，来了不到一个月就跑到阿根廷，和一个老外在一起了。结果这个哥们，就受了刺激，从一个技术工人一直干到工程师。

          而且也是这个人让我对加拿大的婚姻有了一种另外的看法。

          才和他认识没两天，他就开始约我吃饭，兜风，和别人讲说我是他的女朋友。我觉得我老公挺好的，又没想法换老公，所以后来就躲着他走。我决定，如果以后我要去另外一个城市读书，我一定要我老公即使辞职也一定要在一起。

          这里离婚的男人太疯狂，我还要和我老公白头偕老呢。
          • 看来他真是受了刺激了。可是我有两个好朋友，单身男性，都是最近刚刚回国，认识女孩，确定关系并结婚的。这种婚姻最终成功（以一两年为界）的概率大吗？好多海外交友网站上的大陆女孩真的好漂亮鸭！ -eglington(eglington); 2001-3-11 (#32234@0)
            • 运气好的话，会找到心灵如外表一样美的girl. -flying_cloud(流云); 2001-3-11 {500} (#32257@0)
              国内的女孩为了出国可是不择手段。

              我原来在大学教书的时候，学校有一个很年轻漂亮个子又高的女孩，别人介绍对象，她只看那些能马上出国的，最后真是找了一个结婚了，个子比他还矮，又木讷的男孩，说实话，我挺同情那男孩，不知他的桃花运能维持多久。

              另外在中科院的博士楼，还有这样的怪事。有女孩子上门去敲男生宿舍门，问有没有人要出国，她可以嫁给他。听到这儿，我很惊异，赶忙问朋友，这样的女孩子有人敢要么，朋友说，中国科有很多足不出户的老博士，找女朋友很困难，他们还以为他们交上好运了呢。天啊，这是什么世道！！！
              • ai~~~~~~~~~~...... -eglington(eglington); 2001-3-11 (#32261@0)
              • I can not catch your words, could you please clear your logic first. That is all what you mean lucky ? -juliancanery(julian); 2001-3-12 (#32328@0)
                • 对不起，逻辑关系是有点混乱。当然也有好的一面。 -flying_cloud(流云); 2001-3-12 {324} (#32345@0)
                  有朋友在美国奋斗多年从国内娶了娇妻，年龄小很多而且学历也不高，我没见过，不过相信很漂亮。

                  这个女孩深知自己不足的地方，没有来了就享受生活，其实他老公现在已经自己开公司了，可以给她很多物质上的东西。而这个女孩很上进，很自立，白天去打工，晚上上夜校，而且感情也很好。

                  什么事情都不是绝对的，有好也有坏，婚姻本身就是一个赌博。
                  • 象这样的女孩百里挑一都挑不到，可能要百万里挑一才有可能。相信难过中彩票。 -windboy(欲静); 2001-6-3 (#88904@0)
                  • 但绝不是送货上门的那种 -farmer(农夫); 2001-6-4 (#89886@0)
              • 这就是市场,有需求,就有供应. 如果没有送货上门,老博士怎么办? -farmer(农夫); 2001-6-4 (#89885@0)
            • 挖空心思想出国的女人绝大部分靠不住.尤其受过高等教育. -michaelchu(Acrobat); 2001-6-3 (#89086@0)
          • What new century bring us is just loneliness, while we strive for the compatbility to the evolving society. . -1000yearssolitude(my home); 2001-3-12 (#32342@0)
        • 还有一个可怜的旅美的工程师的故事。 -flying_cloud(流云); 2001-3-11 {556} (#32243@0)
          这是一个朋友的同事，几年前去了美国，而他在美国苦苦奋斗的时候，他太太就在国内红杏出了墙。可是这个憨厚的工程师，爱老婆一如即往，费了很大努力把老婆办了过来，希望以他的真心能够感动她。

          结果老婆来了没多久，就又和一老外跑了。可怜的工程师，又戴了一顶大大的绿帽子之后，还得负责养他的老婆。老婆在外打工，自己有收入，但拿的是cash，法律找不到任何她打工的证据，离了婚以后，双收入，过的日子不错。这个可怜人呢，除了自己每月固定的花费，生活费都所剩无已。

          朋友提起这个人的时候，一点同情心都没有，说老婆在国内已经红杏出墙了，怎么还能带到北美这么保护妇女权益的地方呢？
    • 环境是可以改变一个人，但我相信是你的总是你的，天要下雨，她要嫁人就由她去吧。 -ttl(羊肉泡馍); 2001-3-11 (#32144@0)
    • 移民导致离婚,不是理由,我认为如果想离婚,在哪都会离,早晚的事儿.问题不是移民离婚率上升,而是中国人离婚率上升.原因在于中国人已经找不到生活的真正意义. -judy_an(judy); 2001-3-11 (#32251@0)
      • 大错特错.环境是可以改变人的.除非你品德高尚.不过这种人越来越少了!! -michaelchu(Acrobat); 2001-6-3 (#89097@0)
    • 悲惨故事： 北大高才生， 风华正茂， UWO经济系全奖。 -wjiang(wjiang); 2001-3-11 {240} (#32260@0)
      出国前，校花苦苦追寻， 得之。 高才生在加， 省吃简用，
      千辛万苦， 将校花办好手续。 那潘金莲二世， 赴加后
      目睹留学生日常艰苦生活，不待孵热被窝，既逃往TORONTO。
      从此绝无音讯。 想来目前正被她第587个老外男朋友再次
      遗弃吧。 阿门！万呢的主呀！
      • 她可能在跳钢管舞。 -eglington(eglington); 2001-3-11 (#32262@0)
      • 这样的故事并不新鲜。 -diao_david(David Diao); 2001-3-12 (#32307@0)
      • 给所有单身汉的忠告: LP不要太PL, 太PL的话红杏出墙的机会..嘿嘿,,别人也是在老打你LP的主意. -bolomi(bolomi); 2001-6-3 (#88786@0)
        • what is pl? -seymour_sun(seymour_sun); 2001-8-2 (#153295@0)
    • 问题：我们如何进入那40%！ -eglington(eglington); 2001-3-11 (#32271@0)
      • 听主的话,照主的吩咐去做吧 -judy_an(judy); 2001-3-11 (#32277@0)
      • 每天都说I love you.持之以恒。 -bingle(bingle); 2001-3-11 (#32283@0)
        • What if she says "but I no longer love you"? -guest:; 2001-6-4 (#89602@0)
      • I don't mind to try that, I do think it will be a good business for insurance. -juliancanery(julian); 2001-3-12 {399} (#32330@0)
        I will make my experience on it, whatever, it can make me involed into that 60%. if you won't try your own , you will never know.

        What you mentioned are all what happend, it won't be the last choice for you, but it will exactly perfect for them, we got the right to choose our life, it doesn't matter where you are in, Canada or China.

        who care? make fun on it, your right is always right.
      • Spend more time with your wife and baby. -deepblue(deepblue); 2001-6-4 (#89744@0)
    • 从各位的帖子来看，离婚率肯定连50%都不到，不然，大家的例子就该是：“我有一个朋友，竟然还没离婚”，或者，“我也知道一对夫妇，感情还挺好”等等。 -rolling(Rollor); 2001-3-12 {433} (#32355@0)
      这篇新闻的标题耸人听闻，但缺乏实质内容。其标题是‘中国’‘新移民’离婚率高，那么，其他国家新移民怎么样呢？中国未移民同年龄段的家庭呢？加拿大本地人的婚姻状况呢？另外，这里的“新移民”是指三年内来的移民呢，还是指十年或二十年内来的移民？

      “加拿大官方已经采取了多种措施在帮助新移民适应环境”是为了解决中国新移民离婚率“步步高”的问题吗？简直无稽之谈。

      毫无比较，毫无解释，平白无故给出一个60%的数字，真不知道这则新闻到底想说明什么！
      • 看来你的逻辑思维挺好，如果做GMAT逻辑题，你肯定比我分高。 -flying_cloud(流云); 2001-3-12 (#32435@0)
        • hahaha -teddybear(Ted); 2001-6-3 (#88907@0)
        • 我现在就在为我的婚姻担心，虽然我结婚才3个月，但是一个在国内，一个在加拿大，实在是让人担心。其实也很后悔，结婚就是为了跟一个所爱的人长相厮守，现在这样很没意思。确实后悔移民了 -guest:DAVID; 2001-6-3 (#88908@0)
          • 我也一样才三个月，不过我已经申请了她过来，虽然也要等半年，总是有盼头了么。坚持一下就过去了。现在每天打工累的要死，也顾不上想那么多了。HEHE。 -pangpang(babyface); 2001-6-4 (#89914@0)
    • Is it correct?None of my friends divorce here. -wendywendy(wind); 2001-6-3 (#88923@0)
    • 那些离弃别人的人，他/她的新的选择90%都不会给他/她想象中的幸福。他/她带给别人的伤害也会全部报应在他/她自己身上。稍微有点阅历的人就都该知道什么是报应了吧。一句话，不珍惜你的爱，就是烧包，活该，欲离婚者都要三思！ -guest:飞翔的鱼; 2001-6-3 (#89108@0)
    • 没这么多吧，我认识的人咋没一个离婚的！那些‘活耀分子’，或者俊男，或者倩女，在 哪儿都是不安分的，跟移民没关系，患难夫妻还是很多的。 -fxid(枫下客); 2001-6-4 (#89841@0)
      • 说的对，该离的在国内也得离，只不过在这表现的明显一些罢了。 -pangpang(babyface); 2001-6-4 (#89915@0)
    • 60%的比例如果是真的,其中很大一部分也是"结伴移民",本来就是假的. -guest:乌鸦嘴; 2001-8-2 (#153290@0)

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