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必须回加拿大领美国失业金

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  • 枫下茶话 / 美国话题 / 请问H1-B或TN1签证的持有人一旦在美国失去工作(非辞职,在美国而不是在加拿大缴纳了失业保险),可以在加拿大领取EI吗?
    • UP... 建议你到HRDC 也问问这个.
    • 失业保险交给美国,加拿大有义务替美国给钱么?
      • 这个钱是美国给的。
    • 不过一般来说, 在美国失去工作, 还是在美国接着找啊, 为什么要回来加拿大领EI?
      • 两边便宜都占着,能挣美国高工资的时候,办个TN过去,不能挣的时候,回加拿大领EI,多么的幸福呀。
        • 在美国缴纳了失业保险, 不就可以在美国领"EI" 么(不知美国的叫啥), 难道少于加拿大的? 难申请过加拿大的? 不然为什么要回来领?
        • 是啊!这就是加拿大和美国签署自由贸易协定的好处呀!
    • 在美国领失业金 - 10 个月,每月2千多USD
      • 真的么? 每个州都一样? 固定10个月? 固定金额? 不是和原来收入挂钩么? 要这么着, 不是比加拿大强多了, 更不明白为何要回加拿大领了.
        • 州和州不一样,忘了说了,这是华盛顿州的情况。谢谢提醒。
          • 美国华盛顿州有关Unemployment Insurance 的网页
            本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Unemployment Insurance Answers to Frequently Asked QuestionsWhat is Unemployment Insurance?

            Unemployment Insurance (UI) is designed to assist workers unemployed through no fault of their own. UI is 100% funded by employers through payroll taxes. It is not based on financial need. Although weekly benefits are not meant to completely replace your regular earnings, the benefits can help you meet expenses until you find a new job. You are encouraged to apply during the first week you are laid off or your hours of work are reduced.

            Am I eligible for Unemployment Insurance Benefits?

            Eligibility is based on your employment history and the reason you're unemployed.

            If you had 680 hours of covered employment in your base year you meet the employment threshold. From wage information reported by your employer we will calculate your weekly benefit amount and your maximum benefit amount.

            You can also calculate your own weekly and maximum amount of benefits

            The second eligibility item involves the reason you're unemployed. If your employer laid you off for lack of work, you are likely eligible. If you voluntarily quit your job or were discharged by your employer, we will have to make a formal decision about your eligibility. We will get information from both you and your employer. Both you and your employer will have an opportunity to rebut each other's version of the separation. Following that, we will issue the written decision.

            You also need to be physically able to work, available for work, and actively seeking suitable work. Suitable work is employment in an occupation in line with your prior training, experience and education - unless your regular work does not exist in your area. Work would not be considered suitable if the wages, hours or working conditions are not as favorable as most jobs in your occupation in the local labor market or if you are not physically able to perform the work.

            How do I apply?

            You can apply for unemployment insurance online at www.go2ui.com or by calling your Unemployment Claims TeleCenter.

            Why do I have to give you my Social Security number?

            Federal law [42 U.S.C. Section 1320b-7, and 20 CFR 603.3] requires you to provide your Social Security Number as a condition of eligibility for Unemployment Insurance. Here is the text of the statute: "Unemployment compensation agencies shall require, as a condition of eligibility for unemployment benefits, that each claimant furnish to the agency his/her social security number. If an individual refuses or fails to provide the social security number, then that individual shall be ineligible to participate in the unemployment compensation program."
            In addition, WAC 192-110-005(3) says, in part, that you must provide your legal name and your Social Security account number in order for us to process your application.

            I have already applied, now what?

            Length of Claim
            Benefit Amounts
            Unemployment Insurance Information and Weekly Claims Line Phone Numbers
            PIN
            Job Search
            Your Rights and Responsibilities
            Questions about eligibility

            What is a waiting week?

            The first week you are eligible for benefits is your waiting week. You will not be paid for your waiting week. You must file a weekly claim to receive credit for your waiting week, even though you will not receive a check.

            Can I file my weekly claims over the phone?


            Call one of these phone numbers:
            Seattle: 206-340-0300 Spokane: 509-892-6888 Tacoma: 253-305-0300 All other areas: 1-800-318-6022 Español: 1-800-319-1664 TTY: 1-800-318-1665 (requires a TTY device for hearing or speech impaired and a touch tone phone) After you call, select Option 1 to file your weekly claim. Enter your Social Security Number. Enter your PIN. Select Option 1 again to file your weekly claim.
            How do I get a PIN number?

            You must select your own PIN (Personal Identification Number) which you will use each time you file your weekly claim. Use a 4-digit number that you can remember, but one that is not easy for anyone else to guess. Your same PIN may be used with either the telephone or the Internet filing method. Please do not use your birthday, repeating numbers (such as 5555) or numbers in sequence (1234) for your PIN.

            On your first call, you will be asked to enter your two-digit birth month and four-digit birth year using the keypad on your phone, e.g., 07 1956. You will then be asked to establish a PIN. Select and enter the 4 numbers you have chosen for your PIN. When asked to do so, re-enter the 4 numbers to verify. When you have successfully entered your PIN you may go to the next step to file your weekly claim.

            The Employment Security Department does not have access to your PIN number. It is confidential and should not be shared with anyone.

            Can I use the Internet to file my weekly claims?


            Go to the Washington Employment Security Department Unemployment Insurance web site: www.go2ui.com. If you have not filed a weekly claim before, you are strongly encouraged to read the Weekly Claim Instructions, which are linked from the web site. Read the instructions, click on the "Close" button to close the new window and return to go2ui.com. Select "File Your Weekly Claims". You will arrive at "Welcome to the Washington Unemployment Information and Weekly Claims Line Web Page", and click "Continue". You will arrive at "Social Security Number" web page. Enter your Social Security number and click "Continue". You will arrive at a request for your "4-digit PIN". Enter your 4-digit PIN. This is a 4-digit number you have created. You will arrive at the "Services currently available for your claim" page. Select an option. Read the page and click "Continue". The next several pages will provide you with important information about the claiming process. Read each page carefully, answer any questions and click "Continue". For both the telephone and Internet, you will be asked a series of questions. You are responsible for the answers you give. False answers may result in overpaid benefits, which you must pay back. If you provide information that you know is false or misleading, it is considered fraud and is punishable by law.

            When will I get my first check?


            See Waiting Week See First Pay See Possible Lost Check
            My check did not come in the mail. What should I do?

            We usually mail your check the day after you file your weekly claim; however, if you file your claim after 5:00 p.m., we usually mail your check two days later. Do not expect your check the same day every week. Mail delivery may vary.

            If it has been seven mail delivery days since you filed or called in your claim and you have not received your check, call the Weekly Claims Line to see if it has been mailed. If the check was mailed, and it has been seven postal mail delivery days and you have not received it, call your Unemployment Claims TeleCenter. To replace lost or stolen checks will take time. In the meantime, continue to file your weekly claims. Direct deposit of unemployment benefit checks is not available.

            How long can I get my benefits?

            Your claim is established for a "benefit year," which is 52 weeks beginning with the week in which you file your application. You cannot file a new claim with Washington as the paying state until your benefit year is over, even though you may have collected your maximum benefit payable. If you claim full benefits, the maximum length of time your benefits would last is 30 weeks.

            If you have an opportunity for part-time work and your "earnings deduction" (gross earnings minus $5 times 75%) is less than your weekly benefit amount, you could receive partial benefits to extend the period of time that you could draw benefits. Additional earnings may also help you qualify for a new claim when your benefit year ends.

            How do I stop claiming UI benefits? Do I need to let you know I returned to work?

            The way to stop your claim is simple: Do not file your weekly claims. If you do not claim a week, this will stop your claim.

            You may stop claiming at any time during your benefit year and resume claiming the balance of your benefits until your benefit year ends, as long as all eligibility requirements are met. For example, you may take a vacation, have full-time temporary work, or you may become ill. There may also be other reasons you are not available for work or looking for work.

            However, if you stop claiming, even for one week, you must call your TeleCenter to reopen your claim during the first week you are eligible and want to begin claiming again.

            For purposes of filing UI, you do not need to notify the department when you return to work. If your WorkSource office requested this information, please notify them.

            Are extended benefits available after I exhaust my maximum regular benefit amount?

            Currently, there are no state or federal extended benefits available to Washington claimants.

            The federal extensions were authorized in March 2002 and extended twice by Congress and the President. They ended December 27, 2003, though claimants with a balance in their federal extension as of that date can continue to receive the balance.

            The state/federal extended benefit program (EB) "triggered on" in Washington in January 2002 because of the high unemployment rate and "triggered off" effective January 10, 2004. Whether or not we trigger on or off of EB is governed by federal and state laws. No EB payments can be made for any week after January 10, 2004.

            If new extensions become available, potentially eligible claimants will be notified by mail. We will also update this information on our internet site.

            How does severance pay, pay in lieu of notice, or continuation pay affect my benefits?

            Severance payments do not usually have any effect on receipt of benefits. However, "Pay in Lieu of Notice" or "Continuation Pay" with full benefits that are guaranteed can affect the receipt of unemployment benefits. Report any separation-related payments you receive or are entitled to receive to your Unemployment Claims TeleCenter.

            Do I have to accept any job that is offered?

            You do not have to look for or accept work that is not suitable. Work is not suitable if:
            The work is not in line with your training and experience. (After a period of time, any job you are qualified to do may become suitable work.) You would be forced to join or resign from a labor union. The hours or working conditions are not as favorable as most other jobs in your occupation in your area. The work is farther than the usual commuting distance for people in your occupation in your area. The wages offered are lower than the wages common for that occupation in your area. The work is unreasonably dangerous. You cannot physically do the work. The work would offend your religious beliefs or moral conscience.
            Do I have to accept any bump option that I am offered?

            If you or your employer reports you refused a bump option (moving to another job), the department will determine if the refusal is considered a voluntary quit or a job refusal of new work with the employer. (Note: a bump option generally results from a collective bargaining agreement providing more senior employees the opportunity to ?bump? less senior employees during a lay off.) The department will investigate the circumstances of the bump option, taking into account work related factors that may include, but are not limited to, changes in wages, hours, benefits, and/or distance to work.

            Can I go to school and still get UI benefits?

            Unemployment insurance (UI) law requires that you must be able, available and actively seeking work every week in order to receive benefits. Attending school calls into question your eligibility for UI benefits because of the time involved in attending classes and studying. However, if you need training to find new work, you may be eligible for one of the two programs shown below:


            Training Benefits Commissioner Approved Training
            Can I work part-time and still receive benefits?

            If you were unemployed and get a part-time job, you may continue to receive partial benefits. It will depend on:


            Your weekly benefit amount and Your gross earnings for the week.
            You must also continue to make an active search for work each week you claim benefits.*

            We deduct approximately 75% of your gross earnings from your weekly benefit amount. You can view an "Earnings Deduction Chart" (requires Acrobat Reader) to estimate how much you would receive each week.

            A benefit year lasts 52 weeks but your benefits will not last that long if you draw the maximum amount each week. Working part-time may extend the number of weeks you can receive benefits and may also help you qualify for a future new claim.

            *Note: You do not have to look for work if you were a full-time employee, you continue to work every week for the same employer, but your hours have been temporarily reduced to less than full-time.

            Can I still claim wekly benefits if I am moving out of Washington State?

            If you are currently filing weekly claims in Washington, file a change of address after you move. You can do this in three different ways:


            online, by calling the Weekly Claims Line, or by calling your Unemployment Claims TeleCenter.
            Continue to file your weekly claims as you do now. Although you are living in a different state. Washington will continue to pay you benefits. You are required to register for work at your local employment center.

            How do I file a new claim if I have moved or am going to move out of Washington State?


            While still residing in Washington (WA), you may choose to file a new WA claim online at go2ui.com, or by calling your Unemployment Claims TeleCenter. If you have worked in WA and another state(s) in the past two years, you might be better off applying for a new claim against WA and combining your wages from the other state(s). Therefore, you may want to file your claim before you leave Washington State. You need to call your Unemployment Claims TeleCenter to file your new claim. You MAY NOT use the online application if you worked in 2 or more states during the last 18 months.

            After moving to the new state, you will be eligible to file a claim based only on WA wages. You can file online at go2ui.com or by calling your Unemployment Claims TeleCenter at 1-800-362-4636. However, if you wish to file a claim using wages from more than one state, you must file the claim with the state in which you are physically present. If you are no longer in WA, you cannot file a claim against WA State using wages from more than one state. If you are collecting unemployment benefits from WA, you arerequired to register for work in the new state at the nearest employment office. Checkthe government pages of your local telephone directory for the location of the nearest office.

            After your new claim is filed and you move, file a change of address. You can do this in three different ways:


            online, by calling the Weekly Claims Line, or by calling your Unemployment Claims TeleCenter. Once you establish a Washington claim, you will continue to draw from that claim, even when you move to a different state.
            If you have specific questions regarding your individual situation, call your Unemployment Insurance Claims TeleCenter
            Why did I get a paper claim form in the mail?

            Did you file a paper claim form for the last week or weeks to get caught up? When you submit a paper claim form, our computer system is designed to send you a new paper claim form for the following two weeks. If you have been told to use the paper claim forms to file your claims, continue to do so. Please disregard the paper claim forms if you plan to file your weekly claim by using the Internet at www.go2ui.com or the Weekly Claims Line. If you file electronically, you will get your benefit payment faster.

            Are my UI benefits taxable?

            Yes.

            The federal income tax law does not require us to withhold taxes from your weekly unemployment benefits. However, you may choose to have 10% of your weekly benefits deducted for income tax.

            Should you choose to have income taxes taken from your benefits, this may help you avoid a large tax bill.

            We cannot refund any money we withhold for income tax purposes. If we overpay you, and the payment includes an Internal Revenue Service (IRS) deduction, you will have to repay the benefits you received, along with the amount we have withheld and sent to the IRS.

            If you choose to have taxes taken from your benefits, and did not tell the Unemployment Claims TeleCenter when you filed your claim, complete the Voluntary Withholding Form below and send it to the address listed or call your Unemployment Claims TeleCenter.

            You may discontinue withholding taxes from your weekly benefits at any time by calling the Unemployment Claims TeleCenter, but only the IRS can refund your withholdings for income tax. The IRS can only refund your money if you qualify for a refund on your annual federal income tax return. Created by uimaster1更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
        • 好像3万多收入以后就是这金额
    • 加拿大的EI规定你人要在加拿大才可以领,那么说来,美国的EI也应你人在美国继续找工才可以领.但是H1,和TN失去工作后好象只能在美国呆一个月.所以虽然你交了美国的失业金,但是不一定够格去领.即使有B1.B2在美国逗留找工也是不合法的.
      • 必须回加拿大领美国失业金
        • 有没有什么link 可以confirm 这个的? 要是如此可不是很美, 两千多刀回加拿大用10个月不错啊 :)
          • 可能没有公共resource,因为是州政府定的,“车到山前比有路”
          • 现在1美金只合1.3加币都不到,美什么呀
          • #1889892
          • The state UI runs 6 months. The policy varies state by state. Generally if you worked in immigrant-centric states, you must provide proof that you have moved back to Canada before you can get the money.
            And do not expect Candian government will help you collect the money. Compare with the states, the Canadian buercrats are much lazier and do not care about you at all.
            • 我只对华盛顿州感兴趣。
              • WI 可以, 华盛顿州好象也可以. 我在申请UI前, 在坛子上询问过, 有位大侠回答了我的问题, 但我忘了他是申请时在华盛顿州, 还是回答时在华盛顿州
        • 恩,我估计也是。不过现在美国失业的人这么多,感觉好象能领的失业金越来越少了似的。
        • 如果是中国公民,加拿大永久居民,美国H1-B签证持有者,应该不可以吧?
          • 这个不清楚。对加拿大公民而言,不管你是TN或H1B,失业后在领取失业金方面和美国人同等待遇
      • 你没有绿卡,什么钱都领不到。
        • 好像是这样的(我的理解)。一定要有美国绿卡或者是美国公民。
          • 如果这样, 那拿TN或H1的人为何要交EI, 交了不也白交? 前几天不有个帖说可以选择不交的么? ((#1872918)
            • 我当时在美国就缴了EI。
              • 奇怪,你怎么在美国交ei???税表上有这一项么
            • 没有绿卡的,交了就是白交。。谁让你没绿卡的。。
              • 应该是没有白交。工作10年后社会保险金也有资格领取。
                • This information is deadly wrong. Based on 1997 immigration law, you need green card to get SSN benefits, no matter you live in US or abroad.
                  • maple2000说的是将来拿到美国绿卡后的情况。除非你永远不申请美国绿卡,否则这个社会安全保险缴了还是有用的。
                  • 真真假假,假作真时真亦假
                    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Look at the information in US government website:

                    Here is a list of some documents you may need when you sign up for Social Security:
                    1. Your Social Security card (or a record of your number);
                    2. Your birth certificate;
                    3. Your children’s birth certificates (if they are applying)
                    4. Proof of U.S. citizenship or lawful alien status if you (or a child who is applying) were not born in the United States;
                    5. Your spouse’s birth certificate and Social Security number if he or she is applying for benefits based on your earnings;
                    6. Marriage certificate (if signing up on a spouse’s earnings);
                    7. Your military discharge papers if you had military service; and
                    8. Your most recent W-2 form, or your tax return, if you are self-employed.

                    Item 4 says nothing about only limited to US citizenship.

                    Also, I’ve tried their “Benefit Eligibility Screen tool”:

                    There is a question about your citizenship:

                    Choose the option that best describes your citizenship status:
                    1. U.S. citizen
                    2. American Indian (including American Indian born in Canada)
                    3. Non-citizen lawfully admitted to the U.S.
                    4. Other

                    Again: choice 3 is for foreigners.

                    After I answered all questions (has to be set to 65 years old though), I got a positive result.

                    However, for Medicare benefit, you need to be living in States (again, it doesn’t matter whether you’re a US citizen or not)

                    Hope helps.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
                    • I just do not want people be misled. Here are the information regarding item 4:
                      Proof of Citizenship or Naturalization
                      >>We can accept most documents that show you were born in the U.S. If you are a U.S. Citizen born outside the U.S., we need to see a document such as a U.S. consular report of birth, a U.S. passport, a Certificate of Naturalization, or a Certificate of Citizenship. (Born Citizen or Naturalized Citizen)

                      >>If you are not a U.S. citizen, we need to know your citizenship status. We will need to see your INS form I-551, or "Green Card" to document your 9-digit Alien Registration Number or "A-Number". If you have an 11-digit Admission Number, we will need to see your INS form I-94 to document it - whether or not you also have a Green Card. (Foreigner)

                      <<My words>>
                      Based on the paragrpah above, H1 and TN regarless how many years they worked and how much tax they paid, can not get SSN benefits because they have neither I551 nor Alien number..

                      Who is right and who is wrong?
                  • 我认为maple2000说的是对的。
                  • yes, and needs 36 points !
                    • 40 points, may change to more points later :-(
                • U r wrong.
              • 如果maple2000说的是对的,你现在说的就是错的。
                • 信俺的没错,俺信用很好:-)
                  • 。。这次你偏偏就是错了。。
        • 在华盛顿州TN持有者是肯定可以领。其他州可能类似,不过不确定。
          • Thank you very much.
          • 有人实践过或亲自(或打电话)去华盛顿州有关UI的部门证实过吗?
            • 有人实践过了。#1890838
    • If u lose ur job in USA with H1B or TN, that means ur visa(H or TN) is invalid. u need to go out of USA ASAP, normally the grace period is one month.
      • 这个早就知道了。所以才要在加拿大领取EI。
        • need green card to stay in US , then apply for EI to find a new job in US.
        • 应该是可以的,听说美加有协议的
    • 越看越糊涂了, 只好闭嘴旁边看着去. redhill 等你都搞明白了, 另起一帖给大家总结总结吧? :)
      • 好像不太容易搞明白。这里的很多讨论帖子都是不了了之的。
        • when it comes our retirment, we'll know :-)
    • 我的TAXES一栏中有: Federal, State, MediCare, Soc Sec, 3% Pension.那什么是EI呢?另外3%怎么拿回来呢(转到加拿大呢)?
      • Soc sec
        • 那我也交了EI了? 如果我不想工作了, 想回加拿大,是不是可以享受搬家N公里可以领EI的待遇呢?
          • u will get nothing.
            • what state u r in? This is ur real experience?
            • I will call SSA Office to make sure of that.
            • i have one friend who was working in Boston years ago. After the company files bankrupt, he got EI in Toronto.
          • 别耽心,只要你够工作时间,你可以领 (如果你是加拿大公民)
            • 加拿大居民可以吗?另外,如果不是美国绿卡,Medicare是不是也应该退的呢?
    • check your PM
    • 目前的结论是:如果这个人是加拿大公民,可以。
      • U got the point!
      • 就事论事,按照顶上的问题,加拿大居民应该也可以(当然是H1的情况,而非TN的情况)
        • 这还有待于讨论。
          • HRSDC的网页上说,最重要的是出示可以在加拿大合法工作的证明吗,那居民也是可以合法工作的呀
            "...most importantly, you must provide proof that you are legally authorized to work in Canada."

            http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/asp/gateway.asp?hr=en/ei/information/outside_canada.shtml&hs=eza#How
        • yes
    • 以前在Revenue Canada 的办公室里拿过一本小册子,不过,已经不记得小册子封面上的名称了
      里面有很详细的说明关于在美国工作,回加拿大拿EI的问题,我记得的是必须美国的公司要跟加拿大政府有登记或申请之类的,你们谁有时间的,可以去Revenue Canada 的办公室看看,它架子上有各种各样的小册子,拿回来看看

      因为印象中看了之后,反正我们是不合条件,所以,看完就丢了
    • 配偶在美国找到工作,我可不可以问美国或加拿大领 EI?